Joint Leadership Meeting - March 31, 2023
In conjunction with the Selenium Conference, we had an in-person meeting of the Selenium Leadership Team (both Technical and Project Leadership Committees).
Participation
People present included:
- Alex Rodionov
 - Bill McGee
 - Corina Pip
 - Daniel Pono Takamori
 - David Burns
 - Diego Molina
 - Maaret Pyhäjärvi
 - Manoj Kumar
 - Marcus Merrell
 - Simon Stewart
 - Sri Harsha
 - Titus Fortner
 
Agenda
- Define a sustainable way of collaborating between TLC/PLC/SFC
- Possibility for a TLC seat on the PLC to better integrate groups
 - Schedule for regular meetings
 
 - Ideas for our current budget
- List of proposed ideas
 
 - Collaboration / integration with Appium
 - Define ‘roles’ for PLC (e.g., development, outreach, community, events, documentation, marketing)
 - Pushing the ambassador program forward
 - Marketing and promotion
- Supporting ecosystem projects
 
 - Conduct virtual fix a bug workshops
- Train trainers
 
 
Collaboration
- Proposed that PLC to have a meeting structure similar to TLC, with public monthly meetings, including an editable rolling agenda and published minutes.
 - Discussed what things need to be private to PLC — legal, financial, membership related
 - Suggested that transparency isn’t the problem so much as lack of time and focus
 - Noted that there is currently no overlap between the TLC and PLC, and proposed the TLC should choose a representative to PLC.
- It was agreed in principle to have a TLC representative on the PLC for a set time, and not bound by the employer restrictions
 
 - Proposed putting all documents and proposals in the same place
 - Proposed using RFC process (didn’t discuss details)
 - Discussed using GitHub for collaboration; it was pointed out we have an existing (private) project for PLC work: https://github.com/orgs/SeleniumHQ/projects/3
 - Discussed pros and cons of Slack meetings vs Video meetings
- TLC Public Rolling Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/18InWY44S0C_ECkRkRo8GKictu8BEtsahRsFh17tmUR0/edit#
 - Meeting minutes published: https://www.selenium.dev/meetings/
 
 
Budget
- Request for Google Cloud account still not approved
 - Discussed how we want to track what we want to pay for (GitHub?)
 - Proposed that PLC gives TLC a budget that TLC can choose how to spend it
 - Discussed the need to figure out how to reimburse work that is being done outside of official leadership responsibilities
- Concern is how to be fair and how to ensure that we can keep volunteers when some people are being paid
 - SFC will create a policy for this
 
 - Next step is to have a budget specific meeting
 
Appium / Ecosystem Projects
- Discussed how Appium and Selenium relate to each other technically
- Ideas for merging bindings — https://github.com/appium/ruby_lib_core/issues/429
 
 - Discussed that Selenium might need to find ways to support Appium better
- Appium does not have an iOS expert to ensure no future issues
 - Move to BiDi needs to be coordinated
 
 - From technical standpoint using both Selenium and Appium has friction
 - Discussed the need for improving communication and collaboration in dev process
 - Discussed the wider concern of collaborating with all projects in ecosystem and ensuring their help
 - Next step is for SFC to investigate legal options and limitations for supporting other projects.
 
Plan to discuss specifics of roles, community actions, marketing and training considerations in next meeting.




